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Julia Martin on V is for Voltage review of the Tidalforce M-750

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TidalForce M-750: 1000 Mile Check-Up

Articles / electric bicycles
Date: Jan 22, 2005 - 12:48 AM
by Julia Martin
Design Director - V is for Voltage Magazine

I ride electric bicycles almost every day, and when it comes to my daily rider, I have very high personal standards. I will not recommend any bicycle until I can put at least 1000 miles on it. I started riding the TidalForce M-750 by WaveCrest about four months ago and after 1100 miles, I am ready to share my opinions on the ride and build quality of this cutting edge electric bicycle.

I have been riding electric power assisted bicycles for the last four years beginning with a Mercedes hybrid pedelec. I rode the Mercedes for over three years, logging over 7,000 miles in all. My daily ride includes mixed trails and roads and I rode the heck out of my Mercedes until the second motor failed and the second set of tires were literally worn bare. At that time, the Mercedes was the best electric bicycle I had ever had the pleasure of riding and I couldn't conceive of getting anything else to replace it with. I was looking for another Mercedes when Wavecrest announced the release of its TidalForce M-750. Designed for the military special forces with a silent running motor and flat black Montague folding frame, it is a high testosterone ride to say the least and it got my attention immediately. The early reviews were very positive and it became apparent that this bicycle comes with miles and miles of smilage. I am happy to report that smiling is what I have been doing constantly these last few months. This TidalForce is a great replacement for my Mercedes Hybrid Bike offering superior performance and function across the board.

The TidalForce M-750 by WaveCrest incorporates some of the latest technologies including the lighter nickel metal hydride battery pack, a multi-phase brushless hub motor, sophisticated computer control system, regenerative braking, and folding frame for compact storage and shipping.

I really enjoy the suspension in the front forks. Electric bikes typically leave off front suspension rather than deal with the extra weight that the battery and motor systems add to an electric bicycle. To do suspension safely on an electric bicycle, the suspension has to be overbuilt to handle the extra weight. The Mercedes had no suspension so this was a real treat for me and a significant upgrade over my previous wheels. The front suspension gives my wrists and shoulders a much more comfortable ride. The increased comfort level translates into much longer riding times as well. The ability to ride 20 miles or more is great for getting around town and back without needing to recharge somewhere along the way. I have literally ridden 35 miles on the flats with minor power assist and had 40% of the battery power left!

The thumb throttle took some time to get used to as the TidalForce M-750 is an "ebike" and not a "pedelec" like my Mercedes. Ebikes have user controllable throttles, while pedelecs add electric power assistance to the rider's efforts automatically. Though the throttle added another dimension and complication to my controls, once I got used to zooming to 20 mph I decided I liked the throttle quite a lot and it has in fact become indispensable to me now.

It took some trial and error to understand that the power system is disabled while the brakes are engaged. This can be problematic as there are times when riding on dirt trails when you need to jump from brakes to power very quickly to get around on the variable terrain. There are electronic sensors in the brake levers that cut off all power to the motor if the brake levers are squeezed even a tiny bit. Once I figured this out, I had fewer problems maneuvering in the muddy mountain trails and learned to better predict the bike's functionality.

While the M-750 has regenerative braking, I still had to replace my brake pads at 1000 miles. The 75lbs of combined frame, battery pack, and motor weight wears the brake pads down quickly compared to a lighter non-electric bicycle. Once the battery pack is drained by 20%, the motor regenerative braking function kicks in and it becomes very easy stop on a dime with the regen assisting with braking. Until the battery pack is drained 20% though, the regen is not functional so I have to really watch my speed going down hills. I use the manual brakes a lot more heavily at these times.

The rider should have power brakes (regen braking) at all times. I understand there is a reason why regen does not work until there is room in the battery for the power surge created by the braking. Companies in the past with regen braking have had the problem of batteries malfunctioning from too much current being pushed into the packs. Perhaps the excess power created by the regen braking should get dumped into an auxiliary battery pack or capacitor to run a lighting system. The bike is so heavy that the regular rim brakes do not really work well. They are somewhat overtaxed, in my opinion. Besides, a basic lighting system is one essential accessory that does not come with this ride. The regen brake as a main battery pack recharger does not really add all that many more miles to your ride. Everyone thinks that if you can regen and recharge, you can double your range or something. That is simply not true. While regen recharging can extend range up to 10% under some riding conditions, the ?power braking? function is much more important for this heavy bike. The more you can use your motor to slow you down, the longer your brake pads and rims will last.

There is a known issue with this ride pertaining to the battery system. I experienced this issue, despite following all manufacturer instructions very carefully. I was thrice stranded without power in the middle of nowhere. Once, after about 9 miles of normal riding, the power console suddenly gave me the flash of death (indicating a dead battery) though I had 60% remaining charge a moment before. Thank goodness I was not too far out in nowheresville for my cell phone to work and I was able to call for a pickup. Riding and pushing this 75+lb bike 10 miles back home would not have been much fun. I know this from experience. The first time this battery glitch happened I did ride it back home without power. The bike is geared low enough to allow you to slowly slog your way under your own power if necessary, though it is quite the intense workout! Riding under your own power sometimes is very easy, but sometimes you really need the power assist to get up a hill or a long incline. The three times this "sudden death" failure has happened recharging the bike seemed to fix whatever was wrong and the bike would function normally giving the full expected range.

I was somewhat disappointed with the quality of some of the components on this ride; the drive train and pedals are just mediocre quality and seemed to be very out of place on this otherwise very high quality ride.

I upgraded the stock pedals immediately with a nice set of magnesium pedals with sealed bearings. The drive train will be replaced this spring when I finish wearing out the set it came with. I added an absolutely killer lighting system consisting of two Cateye opticube lights, one for each side of the handle bars. This way I can create a clear close-up and far away view of the trail at night. These lights incorporate the new Luxeon technology and run for 30 hours or more on four AA batteries.

I live in western Washington (a very rainy part of the United States), so another important addition was the front and rear fenders. I like to ride in a light rain. The trails are usually clear of pedestrians, and I usually get to see local deer foraging or sleeping along the trail at night.

The bike was purchased from NYCEwheels in New York City and they have been very good backing up the product after the sale. I highly recommend them as a reputable dealer.

I see this TidalForce M-750 as the best hybrid bike available to date, and I have tried a lot of them. All of my criticisms of the M-750 are really just suggestions for TidalForce designed to help bring this excellent bike closer to perfection and create the best electric ride possible.

The TidalForce M-750 is a great leap forward in electric power assisted bicycle technology.

TidalForce M-750 now available online at NYCEwheels.com
Online price - $3000

Aftermarket additions to my M-750:
Topeak QR Beam Mtx Rack - $44.00
Topeak Mtx Dual Side Frame - $18.00
Topeak Expandable Mtx Trunk EX with Side Panniers - $55.00
Odyssey Jim Cielencki Magnesium sealed 10.2oz Pedals - $250.00
2 Cateye HL-EL500 Opticube lighting modules - $50.00 each
Front fender - SKS Shockblade Mtn Mudguard - $25.00
Back fenders - SKS X Blade Mudguard - $28.00
IncrediBell, recycled from my Mercedes - Priceless :)


This is a quiet out-of-the-way place I go to work on my laptop. It is along a pathway next to a local lake miles from town. Exactly 10 miles from my house.


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Tidalforce M-750 review by Art Weiss

Have owned the TidalForce M-750 for about two months and I have nothing but raves for it. It is outstanding, both as a bike and as electric transportation. The frame is by Montague [choice of 18? or 20? frame], is extremely strong, and folds for storage or shipping [an air flight case is promised]. The 21 speeds shift smoothly and move the bike along very quickly in spite of its? 64-pound weight; the brakes are very effective. The gel seat is very ?cool? and streamlined, but I swapped it for a Cloud ? 9 seat that is considerably more comfortable for cruising. The tires have a smooth center for road riding, with a ?grippy? pattern off center for off-road riding; there is also a thorn-protection layer inside the tires to help prevent punctures.

The electric components are also installed very neatly with cable ties, Velcro wraps, and all open ends have caps to seal them shut. There are two access points to the electric: both are of the twist-lock type. The input on the front wheel is to charge the battery; the input on the rear wheel is for computer access to the control system. The handlebar has an attractive [or formidable array] of equipment: the thumb throttle [right side], the computer control area, and a Cat?sEye multifunction computer [odometer, trip length, speed, trip time, etc.

The bike was assembled by NYCeWheels, and functioned flawlessly with the exception of the battery recharge function [when the battery is at less than full, use of the left handbrake automatically recharges the battery]. A call to TidalForce diagnosed a faulty switch, and a replacement was shipped to NYCeWheels and repaired within 24 hours [Bert offered to do the replacement himself, rather than ship the bike back to Virginia.

Use of the bike is transparent: if any electric power is desired, turn the key in the computer, select battery A or B [battery B is an accessory yet to come], and after a brief computer check, you?re ready to go. You may use either all-electric, all manual, or any amount of either in combination [my favorite]. The motor is direct drive from the rear wheel hub and is completely silent and very powerful. Power is either in normal mode or turbo [which cuts distance per battery charge but gives powerful acceleration when desired]]. Use of the left handbrake disconnects power to the motor, and recharges the battery. The 5-LED readout shows the amount of charge remaining, and a blue light indicates recharge from the handbrake.

The Cat?sEye is a great help in checking trip details ? it also shows the speed is limited electronically to 20 MPH [if using the electric while zooming down a hill, the electronic ?drag? can be felt holding the speed to 20]. A speed upgrade to 30 MPH is promised for early Summer; till then, just release the throttle and let the bike fly on its? own!

The 750 comes with no fenders, light or horn; accessories are promised within the month, and a second battery and speed upgrade in the early Summer; Bert helped me select some aftermarket accessories, as well as two Aibus locks. Not only are the locks built like a bank safe; they come with a really cool quick-release frame mount.

Overall impressions: I use it for exercise in pedal mode, for business appointments in electric mode [by the way, there is a cruise control!], and in combination mode when I get fatigued pedaling, or when pedaling up a steep hill, or to add a burst of power to my pedaling to get me out of a hairy traffic situation. I frequently commute from 240th St in Riverdale to the Upper West Side ? and in half the time it takes on the #1 train. I have yet to completely drain the battery due to my electric plus pedal approach; a battery depleted to about 40% capacity [2 out of 5 LEDs remain lighted] takes about two hours to recharge.

I can?t use enough superlatives about this bike: it is fun, it is exciting, it is legal [as opposed to most electric scooters]. It is beautifully styled - looking like a really sophisticated high-tech machine [my neighbor described it as a Maserati], and it?s a great conversation starter whenever you stop for a light or a break on a park bench. It is also pricey, but, in my opinion, worth every penny. I can?t imagine a better way to spend your exercise-recreation dollars. Get one ? life is short!

Art Weiss

Tidalforce M-750 review by Art Weiss
Tidalforce M-750 review

Dear Bert, I just wanted to thank you for your recommendation of the Tidalforce M750. After owning one electric bicycle, and trying a second, there is just no comparison. Here in Westchester New York, I ride over some extremely hilly terrain. The M750 can literally pull me up enormous hills without even pedaling, and I weigh 190lbs! It is worth every penny. More importantly, though, was the excellent service I was given at your store, NYCEwheels, and by you. You obviously stand behind your products, and have great knowledge of all of the e-cycles out there. I would not buy an electric cycle from anyone else. Please feel free to have any prospective customers contact me about you or the M750. I have a feeling you will have trouble keeping these in stock! Sincerely, Dr. Rich S., Westchester NY

Tidalforce M-750 review